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:iconariokh: Had a jreat jornal that pretty much says evething i want to say on a subject, so i just copy paste it here, Agin its not my wrighting but of  :iconariokh: original post is here [link]


I do freelance as well as my full time job, and I am always setting up the next job. it's a safe bet, that if i'm breathing, I'm painting or hustling to get paid for more painting. That's what I do for a living. It's how I put food on the table, and porn in the bathroom.

That said, I thought it bore mentioning especially here on DA though, that I work for HIRE. If your sweet RPG project, or video game pitch has no budget at all for art, it will save both of our time if you don't try to tap me for artwork. I Do realize I'm passing up an amazing opportunity for me to make my portfolio way more awesome, and that I won't be getting that free publicity. It's a risk I'll have to take.

I'm not opposed to people making things out of their garage, in fact, I wholesale endorse it and want you to succeed with it. I sincerely hope your team is a massive success.

I can't work for free though.

You wouldn't ask a gardener to stop by your place to do your lawn for free because it would be really awesome for him. You wouldn't ask a chef to cater your wedding for free because you have the sickest idea for how the wedding will go, right?
You wouldn't send requests to a lawyer to hook you up with free intellectual property law consultations.

Just because I do art, doesn't mean my time is any less valuable than all of those guys. I spent just as much time in school. Quite a damn bit of money I'm still trying to pay off, and years of suffering through trying to get better and better.

When you pay an artist for their work, their prices denote not just the cost of their time, the materials, or the effort for your project. What you are paying for is the cost of experience. A lifetime spent perfecting a craft, and honing an ability. You pay for all the mistakes we won't make for you, because we've made them for ourselves already. You pay for the mind that has been training to deal with specific problems, and generate kick ass ideas, and original concepts.

These things are not born to us, they are learned. You are paying for the time you don't have to spend learning the craft. Just like you pay for pizza when you don't want to make it yourself.

Art is just like anything else when it comes to business. You get what you pay for.

I'm just not willing to deliver poor quality goods.

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:iconcore-point:
That guy posted up something great. It could literally go with any technical field.
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:iconchup-at-cabra:
I understand fully what you mean.

I have a personal rant, though, about artists who I have PAID for a commission who haven't come through, one here at DA: [link]

I paid half up front for a commission from him, and haven't gotten a response back, or even a rough sketch.

Another goes by the name of VP. He did give me a rough sketch, but that's all (Note the post date of the following post at my blog; I STILL haven't gotten the finished piece yet ): [link]
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:icondmitrys:
why you do commission with shit artist like that, go for the pros.
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:iconchup-at-cabra:
Well, i guess this a case where "You get what you pay for", dammit! :-)

Their prices seemed to be within my affordability range, and in the case of VP at least, he has tons of product out there (although primarily for one foot-obsessed person with very deep pockets), so I thought he was trustworthy.

With the other guy, I don't know what the hell I was thinking, now.

Maybe when I run into more 'excess cash', I may talk to you about a commission (if you are willing to draw Very Big Boobs and/or Tentacles, that is :-) ).
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:iconmigerusantte:
~MIgerusanTTE Jan 24, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Totally agree with this...I'm actually doing some requests parallel of my daily work.....but that's because I'm just a noob, but for these people with a lot of skills as Dmitrys or any well known deviant art's artist, they have the right to avoid these kind of "free" requests due to the workloads they surely have.

I'm have little time there on DA and have a lot of things to do actually, commissions, art trades, a complete manga tome, 1 left request.....and I don't even exist here!.....Imagine that with the multiplier of "known artist" , such a pain in the :icondatass:

Anyway sometimes I like to do some requests, first as I mentioned, because I'm a noob, but second because It makes me happy to do something special for someone that appreciates my work.

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~Ru-Nisher Dec 26, 2010  Student Digital Artist
My problem is that I´m not able to say "no" to somebody. I´m pretty sure that this will kill me someday :P
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:icondktorzi:
Bravo, i couldnt said it better myself :)
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:icon0xbutterzx0:
....dood I read that and NOW IM GANNA GET OFF MY ASS AND MASTER THAT CRAFT (been to lazy do do much of anything for that last four mouths ((long story don't ask))) THANK YOU >.> <.< *RUNS OFF*
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~Einherja Dec 16, 2010  Professional General Artist
This even happens to me. Just ignore it.
No i dont draw a story about ninjas that you wrote.
A story where everybody is a ninja and they go to ninjaschool and do ninja stuff.
Hi is has a text based rpg in german an i was wondering if-- :iconbrickwallplz:
:iconcuteplz:
And girls are like Can you draew me like it that drawing that take two weeks plz ?
I ask what she is planning to pay with.
Then i ask if i can :iconraepplz:

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:iconbloodydefinitions:
Agree with this 100% Great to see. I noticed that it mentioned "you wouldn't ask a chef to cater your wedding for free" I may not be an artist but i've experienced this scenario as a chef. Was asked to cook for an acquaintances wedding for free one time.

Their pitch was "we dont have the money to afford a cook, but we know you so you can do it, we'll buy the food you just have to cook it" because for some reason they think just 'cooking' the food for 100 people isn't anything worth money. There's planning involved, thinking of the menu, which pairs with what, making it look perfect. much like an artist.

needless to say I declined because of how much work it would have been, and recieved much ire afterwards. Some people are just too naive.
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